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Posted On: 11/14/2020
By: noah
A: Hi Noah! Possibly – but I strongly advise you not to try it. Ammo this powerful could very well destroy your PF9.
I'd much rather you order Speer Gold Dot 9mm +P ammo: luckygunner.com/9mm-124-grain-p-jhp-speer-le-gold-dot-duty-50-rounds. It's great for self-defense, and the PF9 manual says 9mm +P ammo is safe (but not for extended use). Alternatively you would also do well with Winchester Silvertip 9mm, loaded to a conventional pressure: luckygunner.com/9mm-115-grain-jhp-winchester-silvertip-20-rounds
Posted On: 3/15/2020
By: Paul G.
A: Great question, Paul! Let us split our answer to your question up by each handgun.
H&K VP9: Page 15 of the VP operator's manual states "HK VP pistols are designed to fire quality, factory-loaded ammunition, loaded to NATO
or SAAMI specifications for use specifically in handguns." What's imporatnt to consider here is that SAAMI does not publish specs for +P+ cartridges. The takeaway here is that HK doesn't explicitly claim that thier VP is rated to handle +P+ chamber pressure.
CZ P-10: Page 8 of the P-10 operator's manual states "Always use ammunition in an allowable production design which is in compliance with
standards applicable for ammunition manufacturers and is approved by [...] SAAMI. The use of other cartridges could damage the handgun or cause injury to the shooter." On the manufacturer's support page, they say this of +P ammunition: "Just like in any pistol, +P ammunition will accelerate wear on moving parts. It’s ok to use, we just recommend using it sparingly." On +P+ ammunition they say this: "The only ammos [sic] we don’t warranty are +P+ (since they have no spec to be held to) and handloads (since human error can be a factor)." So it's conceivable that you can fire +P+ rounds in a P-10, but you're rather on your own if you decide to do so.
Canik TP9 Elite SC: Its operator's manual doesn't specify whether the TP9 Elite SC is rated for +P ammunition, let alone +P+. We just gave Canik a call for the answer, and here is what they said: +P is fine, although +P+ is certainly not.
There you have it!
Posted On: 3/12/2020
By: Mark
A: According to page 11 of the M&P 9 Shield EZ manual, "'Plus-P-Plus' (+P+) ammunition must not be used in Smith & Wesson firearms." As to whether S&W firearms can actually handle +P+ ammo is another question, although it's not one we'll risk answering. Regular +P ammo is fine for your handgun, though.
Posted On: 2/3/2020
By: Sig P220
A: SIG Sauer did not design that handgun with the increased power of an over-overpressure round in mind. Can it conceivably fire +P+ ammunition? Potentially. Could it destroy your '80s P226 in the process? Possibly. We'd venture it's not worth risking your weapon to find out!
Posted On: 1/27/2020
By: Raven Cole
A: Yes this ammo will work in your Glock 19. Glocks are also rated to fire +p that are within the SAAMI-spec. Keep in mind that +p will put more stress on the internals and cause them to require replacing sooner then normal pressured rounds.
Posted On: 1/21/2020
By: HWG
A: Hello HWG, yes the Ruger pc9 is rated to fire FACTORY +p loads. Chris here at LuckyGunner recently put out a video about ammo and pistol caliber carbines.Here is the link, I hope this helps explain any other questions! Please don't hesitate to ask us any other questions! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcFK3rcqU8
Posted On: 10/6/2019
By: Kevin Sterling
A: Hi Kevin. Thank you for looking to LuckyGunner.com for your ammo needs. The problem with +P+ rated ammo is that there are no industry standards as to just what that means. Since there are no standard for that pressure level, neither Taurus or us can advise shooting these through your TH9. The below is a copy/paste from your Taurus owners manual.
"It is DANGEROUS to fire “+P+” ammunition in any Taurus® firearm, and doing so may result in serious bodily
injury or death. The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) does not recognize any
“+P+” ammunition at all. These loads operate at unknown pressures."
Give me a shout if you want to discuss the best round for you. Ross 800-317-9506
Posted On: 10/4/2019
By: Alex
A: Hi Alex. Thank you for looking to LuckyGunner.com for your ammo needs. According to LT, there is not way to say for sure. +P is ok, but the problem with +P+ is that there are no industry standards as to just what that means. Since there are no standard for that pressure level, neither LT or us can advise shooting these thru the Elite. Congrats on one of the best pistols to come out! Give me a shout if you want to discuss the best round for you. Ross 800-317-9506
Posted On: 9/18/2018
By: Bob
A: The +P+ designation is a reflection of the operational pressures of the ammo. The typical pressure for standard loads is considered to be very near to 35,001 piezo pressure. +P loads are considered above 38,500 piezo pressure. or very near to a 10% increase. SAAMI specs do not list a pressure standard for the +P+ but it is thought to be very near to 42,000 piezo pressure or a near 18% increase over standard loads. This will result in more velocity, energy transfer as well as a felt recoil impulse. Please note that the use of +P and +P+ is not recommended for many firearms. Exercise extreme caution with its use. We recommend a qualified and competent gunsmith inspect your weapon before using this ammo.
Thanks.
